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1 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:48:31.02 ID:f/UmDC+ga
実力主義か年功序列かどっちがええんや
ちな両方同じ業界

2 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:48:55.82 ID:f/UmDC+ga
悩みすぎて夜も眠れんようになってもうた

3 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:49:17.49 ID:rdX9Ch6s0
ガイジやん
ちなNNT

4 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:49:22.02 ID:f/UmDC+ga
内定無い民もきてええぞ

5 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:49:48.95 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>3
どういう意味やねん

6 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:50:51.75 ID:f/UmDC+ga
実力主義の方は営業黙秘達成率に応じてボーナス数千万とかいくらしい
年功序列は40で1本

7 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:51:12.38 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>6
営業黙秘てなんやねん営業目標や

8 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:51:45.25 ID:f/UmDC+ga
ワイ一人でしゃべっとるだけやんけ…

9 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:52:28.63 ID:f/UmDC+ga
NNTスレにしたほうが伸びたな

10 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:52:55.57 ID:jy8k04R30
内定まだない😡😡😡😭😡😡😡😡😡

11 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:53:21.67 ID:Z6TNYH4E0
わいも内定ないからコネで地元企業はいる

12 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:53:34.32 ID:jy8k04R30
年功序列がいいよ😁

13 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:53:47.16 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>10
面接の戦績どんな感じや?最終は経験したか?

14 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:53:52.59 ID:jy8k04R30
>>11
羨ましい😭

15 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:54:26.44 ID:VPkbJwxpa
力尽きたい

16 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:54:33.47 ID:jy8k04R30
>>13
ほとんど一次落ち😭
最終経験してない😭

17 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:54:49.77 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>12
でも若いうちは給料低くてなあ
実力主義なら初年度からバカみたいにもらえる

18 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:55:41.17 ID:jy8k04R30
>>17
じゃあ実力主義にしろ😡

19 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:55:42.78 ID:Z6TNYH4E0
最終落ち3つ続いて心も体もボロボロ定期

20 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:55:50.50 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>16
それはあれや、第一印象が悪いのと質問に対しての答えがズレてるんや
見た目の清潔感もさることながらハキハキしゃべるのは大事やぞ

21 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:56:15.74 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>15
まだいけるぞ

22 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:56:28.52 ID:hparxPf80
どっちもブラックですぐやめるからどっちでもええで

23 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:56:41.99 ID:IMJwrvyc0
内定先の選び方はどうせ20年後の予想なんてつかないんだから金、労働時間、福利厚生、勤務地、キャリアプラン、知名度なんかを好きな順に並べて期待値計算するように総合指標として考えるんや

24 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:56:45.76 ID:jy8k04R30
>>20
悲しみ😭

もう疲れた😭

25 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:57:07.32 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>19
ええ… 最終は最後になにかありませんか?に対して絶対ここに入りたいぞボケってアピールすれば掴めるやで

26 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:57:36.76 ID:IMJwrvyc0
>>16
一時落ちは見た目かコミュ力に問題かあるのでは?

27 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:57:43.60 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>22
四季報の離職率0%やで

28 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:57:47.37 ID:VSaH/HHm0
なんかこのイッチ声豚っぽい

29 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:58:38.26 ID:jy8k04R30
>>26
コミュ力だ😭

30 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:58:42.65 ID:hparxPf80
>>27
低すぎやろ
どんな中小企業やねん

31 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:58:50.46 ID:/aWcXfx00
40で年功序列で平均1000万って時点で結構絞れるで
海運会社か?

32 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:59:13.43 ID:iurPmlZdd
離職率0%の実力主義とか笑ってまうわ
全然競争ないやんけ

33 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:59:17.84 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>23
なるほどそれええな 適当に点数つけて比較してみるやで

34 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 03:59:22.88 ID:jy8k04R30
眠れない😭

35 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:00:03.74 ID:EYU7cu580
離職率0%とか逆にありえるのかそれ
3年以内の数字ってことか

36 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:00:32.99 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>24
もう少しがんばってみるんや
誰かに模擬面接で見てもらうのは効果的やで
ズバズバ指摘されて心折られてからが勝負や

37 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:01:11.69 ID:R4m9umsi0
駒なしNNTやがええか?

38 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:01:27.91 ID:cXvcCUuTp
実力主義で離職率0パー?
嘘松やないのか?

39 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:01:34.42 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>32
べつに競争あるっていみで実力主義じゃないからな
実力の分だけ評価されるってだけで無能もいるにはいるみたい

40 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:02:05.13 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>35
四季報やから多分3年以内かな?

41 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:02:10.03 ID:jy8k04R30
>>37
もう諦めろ😜

42 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:02:42.42 ID:C/lWiLR70
ワイ18卒院進、未来の就活に震える

43 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:02:46.74 ID:s3TCatUm0
ワイは一次初めて受けたら周りの奴らが過剰ってぐらいハキハキしててアピールしまくってたからええ感じに控えめにしたら通った

44 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:02:52.30 ID:R4m9umsi0
>>41
😡😡😡😡😡😡

45 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:02:59.50 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>37
今すぐ補充やぞ ぼちぼち二次募集の案内きてるやで

46 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:03:01.24 ID:jy8k04R30
>>44
😭

47 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:03:21.09 ID:aJsG4czDd
>>39
すぐ経営破綻しそう

48 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:03:39.87 ID:IMJwrvyc0
今週は内定者懇談会ラッシュだったんやがやっぱ大企業や外資系は接待を心得てるわ会食で高級食材食べすぎて舌が馬鹿になりそう

49 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:03:51.10 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>31
ちゃうでそんなエリートじゃない

50 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:04:14.98 ID:jy8k04R30
もう無理…

51 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:04:35.76 ID:R4m9umsi0
>>45
二次募集って一次で受からん無能に可能性あるんか?

52 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:04:41.94 ID:C/lWiLR70
>>50
ワイと一緒に院進しようや

53 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:04:50.38 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>47
親は財閥系だから安泰よ

54 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:05:58.95 ID:jy8k04R30
>>51
諦めろ😜

55 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:06:26.80 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>51
狭き門ではあるな でもこっちも今から面接に向けて仕上げることもできるぞ
それ逃せばあとは不動産や下流ITくらいしかめぼしいの残ってないやろうし

56 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:07:05.11 ID:jy8k04R30
今からエントリーしたら終わるの8月やんけ…

57 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:07:26.58 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>48
ビールの持ち方やら色々あるみたいやな
ワイ夏頃に懇談会やからまだ先や

58 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:07:38.92 ID:SsRbv5XVd
ニートがイメージする優良企業って感じで草

59 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:07:49.50 ID:jy8k04R30
寝ゆ

60 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:08:06.78 ID:V1C2QK1X0
底辺IT企業が呼んでるぞ

61 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:08:17.25 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>58
さっきから飛行機ビュンビュンやけどどうしたん

62 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:08:50.71 ID:P1mFQCxHp
ワイガチF、大東建託に内定を頂く
平均年収900万やぞ

63 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:09:34.94 ID:qeQctZNV0
>>51
あるに決まっとるやろ
ガイジーーー!!??

64 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:09:37.11 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>62
あっ… まあキャリアアップの布石やと思えば

65 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:09:55.22 ID:YTi/7n9qd
http://imgur.com/Ep9V9br.jpg

Fラン理系やから大手はこのくらいしか選択肢ないんやけどどこがええ?

66 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:10:18.19 ID:oAxnlXDN0
>>58
なーにが草だ
気持ち悪いんだよ死ねよクソ

67 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:10:18.52 ID:SsRbv5XVd
>>61
図星かな?

68 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:10:30.36 ID:TuwI2QFza
おちまくって地元金融に決めたわ

69 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:11:08.62 ID:BJNLTkAW0
転勤なしで見てたら選択肢少なすぎますよ

70 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:11:22.90 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>68
信金地銀は将来性やばいとは聞く

71 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:12:14.39 ID:/aWcXfx00
>>62
入社前に二年無契約でクビの契約書書かされるってマジ?

72 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:12:14.50 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>67
内定先晒すわけにはいかんしそう思いたいならご自由にどうぞ

73 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:12:41.82 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>65
2015年定期

74 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:13:48.93 ID:92JyI6RJ0
ワイはメーカーや

75 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:14:34.93 ID:2WtTwtdpd
ワイイケメンは1つしかes出してないけど来週最終や
絶望的な状況なのに受かる気しかせーへんのはなんでやろな

76 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:14:44.06 ID:K/WJCcmj0
東証一部上場で飲食介護じゃないのに住宅手当が1万しか出らんのやが泣いてええか

77 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:15:49.78 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>74
技術職?
営業なら天国か地獄か別れるイメージ

78 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:16:29.52 ID:1t1U8R51p
ワイも持ち駒残り1つになってその1つから内定出たで
もう就活する気力もないしそこ落ちてたらニートやったわ

79 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:16:30.95 ID:BJNLTkAW0
都内転勤なしって公務員以外でまともなのあるんか?
大手ITくらいしか見つからん

80 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:16:59.43 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>75
それで受かれば崇め奉るわ
まあ自信持っていくのが一番効果的やし

81 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:17:14.73 ID:DFgZQZNX0
ワイは昨日内定者の懇親会行ってきたで
飯食って酒飲んで楽しかったわ

82 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:17:31.40 ID:rgi83mGs0
志望業界の内定(外資)もったまま続けてるけど二次が来週の一社(中堅)だけになって続けるのめんどくなってるわ

83 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:17:59.84 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>76
寮とかないんか…?一部上場と言ってもピンからキリまであるよな

84 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:18:31.64 ID:07SMJgOFd
地方国立の工学部やがどこがオススメや?
説明会来るのは全部推薦あるから割と重要なんや

http://i.imgur.com/eSgLJtd.jpg

85 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:18:51.57 ID:Z6TNYH4E0
>>79
中規模メーカーええで
わいは落ちたけどな

86 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:18:52.42 ID:1t1U8R51p
自己都合の一人暮らしで住宅補助28000出るんやがこれ普通なんか?

87 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:19:27.09 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>79
そんなに転勤嫌か?メガバンみたいに数年単位で田んぼだらけのど田舎に飛ばされさえしなけりゃ平気やわ

88 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:19:43.38 ID:DrGl0PcW0
総合化学と日立の材料系子会社で悩んどるわ

89 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:20:14.79 ID:BJNLTkAW0
>>85
具体的に売上高どんくらいのが中規模メーカーで転勤無いんや?
どこも地方に支部ある印象やけど
そもそも支部無いと営業できんし

90 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:20:22.12 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>81
ええなはよワイも行きたい
同期どんな感じやった?

91 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:20:41.42 ID:5xUL9MJf0
ワイも
鉄道現業とメーカーどっちがいい?
それぞれ年収が670、730として

92 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:20:59.99 ID:2WtTwtdpd
>>80
100社受けても面接する人は全員別人やし確率自体は何社受けても変わらんと思うねんせやから受かるか受からないかは自分自身を磨くしかない
まあ受かったら自慢スレ立てるから称えてくれや

93 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:21:23.40 ID:K/WJCcmj0
>>86
ええやん

94 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:21:27.88 ID:92JyI6RJ0
>>77
せや やっぱ理系たるもの開発職に就くことが名誉やな

95 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:22:15.54 ID:u8/WEDETd
1社しか受けてないって危機回避能力が欠如しとるだけやろ
落ちたときまともな企業は全部エントリー締め切ってるやん

96 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:22:19.40 ID:92JyI6RJ0
>>91
電車大好きなら前者だけど、ワイならメーカー選ぶなぁ
駅員とか運転手やろ?キツそう

97 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:22:51.86 ID:K/WJCcmj0
嫉妬やない
流石に一社しか受けてないのはイケメンでも許されんわ
嫉妬やない

98 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:23:16.31 ID:dAbXSDMfp
>>84
全部受けたれや てかこれで全部推薦あるとかラインナップ強ない?
どこの地方国立や

99 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:23:16.42 ID:DFgZQZNX0
>>90
そんなチャラチャラしたんもイカついんもおらんでええ感じやったわ
あと女は基本的に綺麗所やったな

100 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:23:22.25 ID:92JyI6RJ0
ワイは1社しか受けへんかったで 推薦ってのもあったけど、自分が落とされるとか想像せんかったわ
落ちてたらヤバかったンゴねぇ

101 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:23:27.69 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>92
自分磨きしても落ちるときは落ちるけどな
面接は運と必然の半々やわ

102 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:23:35.90 ID:2WtTwtdpd
>>95
どうせワイは1社でしか働けないのに何個も受けるの面倒くさいしな
まあ受かるやろ

103 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:23:53.75 ID:5xUL9MJf0
>>96
いや、技術職 おそらく夜勤ある
やっぱりメーカーか

104 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:23:54.71 ID:PBekPfmUd
みんな有能なんやな
ワイは中堅地銀内定受け入れるつもりやわ

105 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:24:27.54 ID:+9ncfxYH0
>>104
そういや一昨日までニートやってたけど
大手の工場に内定貰ったわ

106 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:24:29.05 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>94
ワイ文カスは理系のそういうのにたまに憧れるで 絶対やり甲斐半端ないわ

107 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:24:40.14 ID:K/WJCcmj0
有能というより完全に景気と少子化のおかげやろ
バブルカスみたいに威張らず謙虚に生きていきたいと思うわ

108 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:24:44.37 ID:92JyI6RJ0
>>103
そうなんか 鉄道の技術職ってのも凄そうだけど、夜勤は嫌やねえ

109 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:24:56.73 ID:2WtTwtdpd
>>101
最後は社長面談やし面接するまでに企業研究して確実に受かるやで〜

110 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:25:24.96 ID:oAxnlXDN0
>>108
嫌がってるお前かわいいな

111 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:25:36.05 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>99
ええやん理想的やな
やっぱ同期は大事よなあ

112 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:26:06.82 ID:92JyI6RJ0
はよ懇親会行きたいわ 

113 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:26:21.63 ID:aU+que880
ワイの内定先独身寮光熱費込みで9000円とかいう有能
これで平均年収790万やから満足やわ

114 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:26:31.27 ID:K/WJCcmj0
就活 バブル並み
教育 最後のゆとり世代
こんなん絶対叩かれるやんけ!大手の内定率とかで擁護しても叩くやつがそんなデータ見るわけないし

115 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:26:32.82 ID:VSaH/HHm0
就活やーめた もうめんどいわ 卒業したら適当に海外ぶらぶらする

116 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:26:53.83 ID:BNSWT0Shd
2つ受かってて前者は初任給が29万
後者は23万やけど平均年収や勤続年数は上
どっちがええんや

117 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:26:55.82 ID:6FIrvWQ+0
ワイ19卒やけど売り手売り手言っても大手は毎年求人倍率下がってるんやろ?
全然売り手ちゃうやん

118 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:27:48.76 ID:+Z6g3YIK0
就活適当にやったせいで中小メーカー勤務のワイは後悔してるからみんながんばりや
日本は新卒カードが最強やぞ

119 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:27:56.27 ID:89YEVink0
>>116
初任給高いところはブラックの典型や

120 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:28:38.11 ID:92JyI6RJ0
>>116
初任給29万って何や 金融?
それか、海運の石油タンカーとかに乗る人か?

121 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:28:45.56 ID:x3/zCiYT0
懇談会って行く気ないとこでも出てええんか?

122 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:28:53.33 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>113
大手ほど福利厚生もよくて給料もええからすごいわな 可処分所得ザクザクや

123 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:29:21.38 ID:BNSWT0Shd
>>119
後者より劣るだけで平均勤続年数20年近いんやけどな
どっちも理系なら誰でも知っとるとこやし

124 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:30:05.18 ID:BNSWT0Shd
>>120
メーカーやで
ちな修士

125 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:30:09.84 ID:K/WJCcmj0
>>123
ンゴゴゴゴゴッゴゴ自慢やめーや
嫉妬やないこれだけははっきりしとる

126 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:30:34.33 ID:aU+que880
>>122
ほんそれ
家賃補助とかも上限20万で8割会社負担やし大手最高やわ

127 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:30:45.31 ID:qeQctZNV0
>>121
ええんやで!

128 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:30:50.41 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>116
ワイとまったく同じ感じやな
もうそれ以外の点で測るしか方法はなさそうや

129 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:31:26.77 ID:DrGl0PcW0
就活して気づいたが、公務員の福利厚生って言うほど凄くないよな

130 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:32:18.71 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>126
わいのオンシャも7割会社負担やから月10万のマンションとか余裕で住めると考えるとワクワクが止まらんで

131 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:32:21.04 ID:qeQctZNV0
>>126
家賃10万円のワイ
低みの見物

132 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:32:26.51 ID:JTpQMc4m0
>>129
一番の売りは福利厚生じゃなく安定やろね

133 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:32:29.73 ID:aU+que880
>>129
ワイも思ったわ
年金も厚生年金と同じになるらしいしええとこないよな

134 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:33:04.46 ID:BNSWT0Shd
>>128
フィーリング的には後者なんやけどなぁ
初任給これだけ違うと迷うで

135 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:33:48.62 ID:tepGVaGz0
大手行ったけど重厚長大な組織ってのが合わなくて半年でヤメたなぁ
働く必要もあんまなかったから社会経験として
一応外出とけって爺さんに言われて入っただけだけど

136 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:34:08.93 ID:vPQgjGD50
自分が有能か無能かで決めればええやん
無能やったら年功序列一択やろ

137 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:34:11.92 ID:aU+que880
>>130
今からどんな暮らし出来るか楽しみでしゃーないよな

138 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:34:38.64 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>134
最終的に平均年収が上になるなら初任給低い方でも後悔はせんのちゃうかな
それにフィーリングは大事にすべきやとワイは思うし

139 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:34:50.93 ID:dnR8dO7j0
仕事内容しっかり確認しろよ
じゃないとワイみたい二ヶ月で辞めるぞ

140 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:35:13.86 ID:DrGl0PcW0
初任給ってそんなに大事かね

141 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:35:59.32 ID:rgi83mGs0
御社待たせるの心が痛むンゴねえ
10人も取らないところやし

142 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:36:43.96 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>136
営業なんやが働き出した自分が有能になれるのか無能になるのかが全然予想できんのや…

143 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:36:51.25 ID:BNSWT0Shd
>>138
ただ前者は最近絶好調で平均年収急上昇中なんや
後者にはまだ勝てんけどこの調子ならいずれ抜きそうやし
そのぶん下がるリスクもあるけど

144 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:36:54.45 ID:QTmsxhK+a
思ってるほど自分には実力ないってことが半年程度でわかるから年功序列が安心やで

145 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:37:25.02 ID:vPQgjGD50
>>132
安定によって得られる社会的地位やな
薄給でも公務員だしという言い訳もできるし

146 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:37:45.13 ID:+YRxLyOp0
部活の試合で御社の懇親会参加出来なそうなんだけどヤバイかな

147 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:38:20.59 ID:vPQgjGD50
>>142
その考えは年功序列の方がええわ
営業で有能な奴はそんなこと考えん

148 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:39:42.88 ID:Y5z/4U7p0
文系でメーカーばっかり受けてたら内定無いままや

149 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:39:52.68 ID:KlEwxFYQ0
わいに内定と単位くれ

150 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:40:10.20 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>143
難しいところやね
まあ>>23が言うみたいに総合的に判断してくのが一番かなと思ったやで

151 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:41:18.50 ID:giq6X3DHa
ワイ地方民、薄給すぎて泣く

152 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:41:29.17 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>147
うーんやっぱそうなんかね

153 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:42:11.12 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>149
ワイは1内定を10単位に変えたいンゴねえ

154 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:42:13.89 ID:aU+que880
ワイのツレにもおるけど今NNTニキはなんでなんや?
レベル高いとこ受けたからなんか?

155 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:42:55.41 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>144
半年ってまだ担当すら持ってないやん

156 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:43:33.94 ID:piINTl9qa
鉄鋼マンわい、今日も元気に3時出社

157 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:44:36.10 ID:tepGVaGz0
入って半年もすると3年上の先輩とかで化物みたいなのがいると気付くよ
大手だと母数多いから確実にいる

158 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:45:26.82 ID:aU+que880
>>156
お疲れやで
ワイ鉄鋼の物流請負のとこ行くんやけど鉄鋼所ってそんなに始業はやいんか?

159 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:46:02.31 ID:gu+kZZuf0
でも家賃補助って四季報とかの年収に含まれてるでしょ

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162 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:47:07.70 ID:KlEwxFYQ0
4年時に残り単位20以上あるとやばめ?

163 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:47:25.43 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>159
有報ベースなら基本給+残業代+賞与やから補助とかを年収に含んでるなんてあんま聞いたことない

164 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:47:49.50 ID:piINTl9qa
<<158
部署によるかな
操業技術は辛いわ

165 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:47:53.72 ID:IMJwrvyc0
>>154
ワイの研究室同期のnnt奴らはルックス、コミュ力、学力、知性、研究の進捗とかどれを取っても普通以下や

166 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:48:01.28 ID:3HKR57eva
ワイ底辺ITにしか内定貰えず就職留年を決意

167 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止 転載ダメ©2ch.net(4級):2017/06/16(金) 04:48:13.81 ID:B6MOHMEJ0
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Slot
🎴🌸🍜
🎰🎴😜
🌸💰🍜
(LA: 1.22, 1.16, 1.10)


168 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:48:21.32 ID:Y5z/4U7p0
無い内定で残り30単位やしボッチやし絶望しかない

169 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止 転載ダメ©2ch.net(4級):2017/06/16(金) 04:48:35.35 ID:B6MOHMEJ0
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Slot
😜👻🍜
🍜🍜💰
💣👻💣
(LA: 0.94, 1.10, 1.08)


170 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止 転載ダメ©2ch.net(4級):2017/06/16(金) 04:48:46.07 ID:B6MOHMEJ0
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Slot
🎴👻🌸
🎰🍜🎰
🌸👻😜
(LA: 0.87, 1.08, 1.08)


171 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止 転載ダメ©2ch.net(4級):2017/06/16(金) 04:48:56.87 ID:B6MOHMEJ0
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Slot
🌸🍒🌸
🎰🍜🎰
🎴🎰😜
(LA: 0.74, 1.04, 1.06)


172 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止 転載ダメ©2ch.net(4級):2017/06/16(金) 04:49:07.07 ID:B6MOHMEJ0
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Slot
🌸👻🌸
🎰💣🎰
🎴🍒😜
(LA: 0.70, 1.03, 1.06)


173 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:49:20.38 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>168
単位は頑張りゃどうにかなるとしてそれ以外がねえ…

174 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:49:24.34 ID:GiWTjxfw0
>>168
ぼっちならせめて単位くらいはとっとけよ…

175 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:49:38.95 ID:gu+kZZuf0
>>163
企業が公表してる平均年収は基本的には家賃補助等諸々の手当込みのはずだよ

176 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:51:37.93 ID:qeQctZNV0
>>163
残業を誇る奴は奴隷の首輪自慢と気付いて欲しいわ

177 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:52:06.77 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>175
すまんワイの無知やったわ
だから借り上げ社宅が一番住宅に関する福利厚生ではいいわけや

178 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:52:07.81 ID:+9ncfxYH0
>>154
ニキって何?新参だからわかんない教えて

179 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:54:35.86 ID:gu+kZZuf0
>>177
借り上げ社宅羨ましい
でも最終的には自分が選んだ良い家に住みたいね

180 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:55:24.75 ID:Y5z/4U7p0
>>174
編入やねん、土曜も学校通ってこれや

181 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:55:35.44 ID:aU+que880
>>164
サンガツ
鉄鋼所見学したけど面白そうやし気になってたんや

182 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:57:28.90 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>179
将来的にはやっぱりそうなるよね
某オイルシールメーカーは戸建買ってもそれを借り上げ社宅として扱ってくれると聞いて度肝抜かれたわ

183 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:58:07.68 ID:hpD36+/3d
住宅補助しょっぱい上にギリギリ実家から通えないとかいう微妙なとこしか内定無いンゴ…

184 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:58:22.28 ID:2BCc988F0
離職率0って逆に怖くない?

185 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:58:43.54 ID:n17fRKAB0
行きたい会社最初に受けて1発で通ったわ
我ながらびっくりした

186 :風吹けば名無し@無断転載禁止:2017/06/16(金) 04:59:45.80 ID:f/UmDC+ga
>>185
ええなあ
わいはインターンまで行って何回も足運んだ第一希望オンシャに一次で祈られたわ いやサイレントだから祈られすらされなかったな

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